Sönke Neitzel - Soldaten

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In 2001, spurred by a nagging curiosity over a transcript of a secretly recorded conversation he had come across in his research on the German U-boat wars, historian Sönke Neitzel paid a visit to the British national archives. He had heard of the existence of recorded interrogations of German POWs, but never about covert recordings taken within the confines of the holding cells, bedrooms, and camps that housed the prisoners. What Neitzel discovered, to his amazement, were reams of untouched, recently declassified transcripts totaling nearly eight hundred pages. Later, Neitzel would find another trove of protocols twice as extensive at the National Archives in Washington, D.C.
Though initially recorded by British intelligence with the intention of gaining information that might be useful for the Allied war effort, the matters discussed in these conversations ultimately proved to be limited in that regard. But for Neitzel and his collaborator, renowned social psychologist Harald Welzer, they would supply a unique and profoundly important window into the mentality of the soldiers in the Wehrmacht, the Luftwaffe, the German navy, and the military in general, almost all of whom had insisted on their own honorable behavior during the war. It is a myth these transcripts unequivocally debunk.
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801

SRM 746, 3 August 1944, TNA, WO 208/4138.

802

SRX 1978, 13 August 1944, TNA, WO 208/4164.

803

SRM 726, 30 July 1944, TNA, WO 208/4138.

804

SRM 1150, 30 December 1944, TNA, WO 208/4140. The anti-Semitic commentary supposedly came from the division commander, SS brigade leader Heinz Lammerding.

805

SRM 899, 15 September 1944, TNA, WO 208/4139. On plunder, see SRM 772, 1 August 1944, TNA, WO 208/4138.

806

An NCO reported that ten English POWs had been shot in his unit. SRM 741, 4 August 1944, TNA, WO 208/4138. NCO Kaun reported that a Canadian POW was killed with a pickax. The perpetrator could have been a member of the SS division “Hitler Youth” or a regular army soldier. SRM 737, 3 August 1944, TNA, WO 208/4138.

807

For a general overview, see Lieb, Konventioneller Krieg .

808

SRM 892, 15 September 1944, TNA, WO 208/4139.

809

SRM 855, 29 August 1944, TNA, WO 208/4139.

810

Room Conversation, Hanelt–Breitlich, 3 April 1945, NARA, RG 165, Entry 179, Box 479. The mention of tanks destroying the village makes it seem likely that this incident was part of the battle against “partisans,” carried out by Waffen SS units and not by a Security Service commando.

811

GRGG 225, 18–19 November 1944, TNA, WO 208/4364.

812

See Neitzel, Abgehört, pp. 300–303, 572ff.

813

SRX 1799, 23 June 1943, TNA, WO 208/4162.

814

There is unfortunately only scant research on the topic of war crimes committed by the Waffen SS on the Eastern Front.

815

SRN 3929, 10 July 1944, TNA, WO 208/4153.

816

SRM 1079, 24 November 1944, TNA, WO 208/4139. On massacres of civilians in Belarus, see the statement by Rottenführer Otto Gregor. PWIS (H)LDC/762, TNA, WO 208/4295. Lieutenant Colonel Müller-Rienzburg told as a POW of how Standartenführer Kurt Meyer had bragged at a training session of how he took Charkow with only two casualties and then destroyed the entire village, including “women, children and old people.” SRGG 832, 13 February 1944, TNA, WO 208/4168.

817

SRM 648, 15 July 1944, TNA, WO 208/4138.

818

SRM 643, 13 July 1944, TNA, WO 208/4138. On the execution of POWs by the SS Division “The Reich,” see SRM 764, 8 August 1944, TNA, WO 208/4138. Untersturmführer Karl-Walter Becker from 12th SS Division “Hitler Youth” recalled comrades telling him about the invasion: “In Russia, the standard operating procedure was that only the POWs who seemed most important would be transported. All others were usually murdered.” TNA, WO 208/4295.

819

SRM 1205, 12 February 1945, TNA, WO 208/4140. On the crimes of the 12th SS Armored Division in Normandy, see Howard Margolian, Conduct Unbecoming: The Story of the Murder of Canadian Prisoners of War in Normandy (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 1998); Lieb, Konventioneller Krieg, pp. 158–66.

820

SRM 753, 3 August 1944, TNA, WO 208/4138.

821

Further crimes are mentioned in SRM 706, 28 July 1944, TNA, WO 208/4138; SRM 367, 9 November 1943, TNA, WO 208/4137 (the murder of hostages in Panevo, Serbia, in April 1941).

822

Leleu, La Waffen-SS, pp. 233–35; 420–41; Jürgen Matthäus, Konrad Kwiet, Jürgen Förster, and Richard Breitman, eds., Ausbildungsziel Judenmord? “Weltanschauliche Erziehung” von SS, Polizei und Waffen-SS im Rahmen der “Endlösung” (Frankfurt/Main: Fischer Taschenbuch Verlag, 2003).

823

GRGG 262, 18–20 February 1945, TNA, WO 208/4177.

824

SRM 1214, 12 February 1945, TNA, WO 208/4140.

825

SRM 1216, 16 February 1945, TNA, WO 208/4140. The wording of Himmler’s order of 20 February 1943 was nearly identical. See Matthäus et al., eds., Ausbildungsziel Judenmord?, p. 106.

826

Bernd Wegner, Hitlers politische Soldaten: Die Waffen-SS, 1933–1945 (Paderborn: Schoeningh Verlag, 2009), p. 189.

827

Matthäus et al., eds., Ausbildungsziel Judenmord?

828

SRM 649, 16 July 1944, TNA, WO 208/4138.

829

Leleu, La Waffen-SS, pp. 468–70.

830

Wegner, Hitlers politische Soldaten, p. 48ff.; Leleu, La Waffen-SS, pp. 456ff., 483ff.

831

SRM 649, 16 July 1944, TNA, WO 208/4138.

832

SRM 705, 28 July 1944, TNA, WO 208/4138.

833

SRM 649, 16 July 1944, TNA, WO 208/4138.

834

Carlo Gentile, “‘Politische Soldaten’: Die 16. SS-Panzer-Grenadier-Division ‘Reichsführer-SS’ in Italien 1944” Quellen und Forschungen aus italienischen Archiven und Bibliotheken 81 (2001), pp. 529–61.

835

Peter Lieb, “‘Die Ausführung der Maßnahme hielt sich anscheinend nicht im Rahmen der gegebenen Weisung’: Die Suche nach Hergang, Tätern und Motiven des Massakers von Maillé am 25. August 1944,” Militärgeschichtliche Zeitschrift 68 (2009), pp. 345–78.

836

SRM 766, 8 August 1944, TNA, WO 208/4138.

837

Leleu, La Waffen-SS, p. 794ff.

838

SRM 668, 21 July 1944, TNA, WO 208/4138.

839

See Matthias Weusmann, “Die Schlacht in der Normandie 1944: Wahrnehmungen und Deutungen deutscher Soldaten” (Master’s thesis, University of Mainz, 2009).

840

Christian Gerlach, Kalkulierte Morde: Die deutsche Wirtschafts- und Vernichtungspolitik in Weißrußland (Hamburg: Hamburger Edition, 1999), pp. 609–22; Peter Lieb, “Die Judenmorde der 707: Infanterie division 1941/42,” VfZG 50 (2002), pp. 523–58, esp. 535–44.

841

Hartmann, Wehrmacht im Ostkrieg, pp. 469–788; Hermann Frank, Blutiges Edelweiss: Die 1. Gebirgsdivision im Zweiten Weltkrieg (Berlin: Ch. Links Verlag, 2008); Peter Lieb, “Generalleutnant Harald von Hirschfeld: Eine nationalsozialistische Karriere in der Wehrmacht,” in Von Feldherrn und Gefreiten: Zur biographischen Dimension des Zweiten Weltkrieges, Christian Hartmann, ed., (Munich: Oldenbourg, 2008), pp. 45–56.

842

See Hans-Martin Stimpel, Die deutsche Fallschirmtruppe, 1936–1945: Innenansichten von Führung und Truppe (Hamburg: Mittler & Sohn, 2009).

843

The British concluded that the officer POWs of the 3rd Paratrooper Division consisted almost exclusively of Nazi true believers. Corps Intelligence Summary, No. 56, 8 September 1944, TNA, WO 171/287. We owe this reference to Peter Lieb, Sandhurst.

844

SRGG 971, 9 August 1944, TNA, WO 208/4168.

845

That is the conclusion reached by a study that systematically compared the surveillance protocols of officers from the Waffen SS and paratrooper divisions. Frederik Müllers, “Des Teufels Soldaten? Denk- und Deutungsmuster von Soldaten der Waffen-SS” (Master’s thesis, University of Mainz, 2011).

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