Brian Lane - Mind Games with a Serial Killer

SUFF:Yes.

KEERS:What did you do with the shoes?

SUFF:I don’t know.

KEERS:The truth. What did you do with the shoes?

SUFF:I don’t recall seeing any shoes.

KEERS:Okay.

SUFF:I don’t.

KEERS:You picked up the shoes, now, did you throw ’em away somewhere?

SUFF:No.

KEERS:Tell me what you did with the shoes.

SUFF:I didn’t have the shoes.

KEERS:Okay, what did you do with the shoes, did you leave ‘em out there?

SUFF:They weren’t there.

KEERS:Okay. What else did you see out there, Bill?

SUFF:Saw a body sitting there, laying down.

KEERS:What the body looked like?

SUFF:Uuuhh, it had a tit removed.

KEERS:It had a tit removed?

SUFF:Saw a body sitting there, laying down.

SUFF:Yes, it was this part, the ti, tit was gone on this part of her body. It was gone.

KEERS:What time did you go the grove, Bill? The truth. The honest truth because that’s all we’re after here is the truth.

(Throat clearing)

KEERS:What time did you go to the groves?

SUFF:It was about nine o’clock.

KEERS:Nine o’clock.

SUFF:Ten o’clock.

KEERS:When?

SUFF:On the 23rd.

KEERS:In the morning?

SUFF:No.

KEERS:In the evening?

SUFF:At night.

KEERS:That’s not true. Now I will give you a chance to think about what you, wait a minute

SUFF:Yes.

KEERS:let me finish

SUFF:Yes.

KEERS:what I have

SUFF:Okay.

KEERS:to say.

SUFF:Okay.

KEERS:I’m gonna give you a chance to think about it, okay? Now. Think about it. On the 23rd of December

SUFF:Ahm.

KEERS:that’s the day before Christmas Eve.

SUFF:Right.

KEERS:You drove to the grove area. Is that correct?

SUFF:Yes.

KEERS:You backed into the dirt portion of Victoria Avenue.

SUFF:Yes, wait.

KEERS:Let me finish.

SUFF:Okay.

KEERS:Okay. Did you do that?

SUFF:I got the date wrong.

KEERS:Okay. What was the date?

SUFF:The 22nd when I drove in there. And it was about nine or ten o’clock at night.

KEERS:Okay.

SUFF:On the 22nd.

KEERS:Okay.

SUFF:I wasn’t in there on the 23rd.

KEERS:Well, Bill, now we just went through this, okay?

SUFF:Okay.

KEERS:We went through all of this. We went through every stinking bit of it, okay?

SUFF:Right.

KEERS:And we talked about the truth and we talked about lies, didn’t we?

SUFF:Yes we did.

KEERS:Now. I’m gonna give you the opportunity the thing you that just said, ’cause that’s a lie. I want you to think about what you did. What did you do on Monday? You were off work that week. Think about it, what did you do on Monday?

(Door opens and closes)

SUFF:I know I was at Cheryl’s work for awhile.

KEERS:You were where?

SUFF:At Cheryl’s work.

KEERS:And what time was that?

(Sound of paper shuffling)

SUFF:It was late at night because I was there to take her home.

KEERS:Okay. What did you do in the morning?

SUFF:We were

KEERS:No.

SUFF:asleep.

KEERS:No. We’re talking about the truth. Okay, you tell me

SUFF:Aha.

KEERS:what time you drove into the orange grove. Now I don’t wanna hear that you drove in there at nine o’clock at night beca

SUFF:….

KEERS:wait a minute. I wanna hear the truth.

SUFF:Yes.

KEERS:We discussed this, we talked about the truth, what the evidence is that we have.

SUFF:Okay.

KEERS:Now I am giving you the opportunity to tell the truth now. Putting all this out.

SUFF:I know.

KEERS:Okay. So I’m gonna shut up and I’m gonna let you tell me the truth. And if you need my help, you say, “I need you to help me through this.”

SUFF:Okay. With, I need your help. The afternoon she was found, what day was that on?

KEERS:Do you know

SUFF:Was it

KEERS:She was found in the afternoon?

SUFF:According to the newspaper she was found in about one-thirty in the afternoon, somethin’ like that. Uh according to, no it was according to the news, I heard it on the radio.

KEERS:Okay. I’m gonna listen.

SUFF:She was, she was found uh by a worker or somethin’, somebody.

KEERS:I’m listening.

SUFF:Okay, what day was that? I was there the night before.

KEERS:The night before what?

SUFF:The night before she was found by this migrant worker or the uh grove worker. I was there the night before.

KEERS:Okay. You were there the night before. We’ll we’ll go this route, tell

SUFF:You said.

KEERS:me what you were doing there the night before.

SUFF:Exactly what I told you. I pulled in to look for some oranges.

KEERS:Ahm.

SUFF:I got out of the van and walked around, opened up the back sliding, put the oranges in a box that I had back there and then I started into the orange grove and that’s when I saw the body. I did exactly what I told you, uh, she was missing a breast and I picked up the clothes, uh I don’t know why I picked up the clothes, looked around and then I thought I’d better get out here before I

KEERS:Okay.

(throat clearing)

KEERS:Okay. Okay we’re gonna stop right now.

SUFF:Okay.

KEERS:Because now I’m gonna give you a little more. You were told to tell the truth, okay.

SUFF:Okay.

KEERS:Is that what you wanna do is tell the truth?

SUFF:Please.

KEERS:And you have not told it all have you? Bill,

SUFF:I did.

KEERS:you haven’t told all the truth, have you?

SUFF:Go ahead.

KEERS:When you admit to me the truth. Have you told me all the truth?

SUFF:As far as I could remember, yes.

KEERS:Okay, I’m gonna help you, Bill. But I need you to tell me, you have not told me all the truth have you?

SUFF:Uuuhh, as far as I can remember, yes, I have been.

KEERS:You have a knife, Bill?