Sebastian Gorka - Why We Fight - Why We Fight - Defeating America's Enemies - With No Apologies

Dave:How knowledgeable did he seem about things? Because this is one of the parts that people, that we have no handle on.

Sebastian Gorka:He’s passionate, really interested. Not a guy you’re going to debate what happened in Karbala in the ninth century, but really interested in this stuff and with opinions. Halfway through this discussion—and he was sitting closer to me than you are and Corey over there—and he does a classic Trumpism, he just stops the conversation and goes, “Corey, I like this guy! Let’s hire him!” And that was it, and he asked me to help. I wasn’t part of the campaign, but I became an advisor, wrote policy papers that he used in the debates, and we stayed in touch, but I never joined the campaign.

Then, as things progressed and the field whittled down to what it did, I kept meeting General Flynn at events. I was a participant, I was just in the crowd, and I kept bumping into General Flynn, and I’ve known him from when he was director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, and eventually he just pulled me in, and by October, the month before the election—I don’t know if you’re familiar with the system. In the presidential election, the last two runners get support from the federal government before the election, and they get offices near the White House to create “Transition Teams,” to prep. So Hillary got one story and the [future] president got another story of this building. I was pulled into…

Dave:That’s hilarious. It’s in the same building?

Sebastian Gorka:Oh yeah, and if you talk in the elevator, you were like, you had to… [be quiet].

So I got pulled in and asked to work on the National Security Council Transition Team for General Flynn, and my wife, who has a background on the issues, was pulled in to work on the Department of Homeland Security team, and so I became a part of the official Transition Team. Up to the very last moment, the week of the inauguration, I was going to be doing counterterrorism stuff for General Flynn and the NSC, and then Steve Bannon, who knows me, reaches out at the last moment and says, “No, you’re going to come and work for me in the office of the chief strategist as the strategist to the president.” And that’s how, you know, at 12:01 on January 20, I became the deputy assistant to the president.

Dave:So the second that happened, the media went bananas on you.

Sebastian Gorka:No, no, no. It’s very interesting. They didn’t go bananas until the “travel ban” dropped, and I realized things were not going well in terms of communicating the ban. So I said to Steve and I said to Sean [Spicer], “Guys, I’ve done a bit of media in the past. I can be the face of this stuff if you want.” I mean we’ve got the NSC communications team, but I’m prepared to go on CNN and debate these guys. So they threw me into the fire, and I loved it, and the left went nuts. They just absolutely went insane. It was once I was vehemently representing the president on television that out came the hit pieces and the lies.

Dave:Yeah, let’s talk about that a little bit, because I see this happening to anyone that I have any degree of respect for. I see it happen … and it’s coming to me now too. I mean I see this happen to anyone who I think is trying to be somewhat honest. The endless attacks. There were just an endless slew of things, that you’re an anti-Semite and all of this craziness. I mean at the Turning Point USA event that I saw you speak at, you gave one of the strongest defenses of Israel I’ve ever heard. But they almost take everything and do the complete reverse of it. What do you make of that tactic? Where it’s literally the reverse of what the truth is. It’s not just like, “We’re going to take a line and make it seem a little different.” It’s “we’re going to do something that’s absolutely counter….”

Sebastian Gorka:You’ve got a big viewership. I know your “why I’m no longer a progressive” [Prager] video [4] Dave Rubin: “Why I Left the Left,” Prager University https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiVQ8vrGA_8&vl=en has gotten, I don’t know, millions of views now, so I’ll open up a little bit, despite the size of your audience.

I have a reputation for being a scary dude and being a “hard ass,” and that’s fine. But after the seven months that I went through, and that my family went through, every time, every few weeks, I have the same emotional response, and it would probably surprise you or others.

As a human being, I want to try to understand how another human being who’s never met me, who knows nothing about me or what my family has been through, can write what they wrote about me or say what they said about me.

It leaves me speechless that you can have such venomous hatred for somebody and peddle such egregious lies, and you not only call yourself a journalist but you actually think you’re a human being.

I was attacked, and that’s fine, because I’m a politically commissioned officer of the president. I’m a proxy. I was a proxy for Steve [Bannon]; I was a proxy of the president. I understand that. That’s okay, but hey, why don’t we debate the policies. They never wanted to debate the policies. It was ad hominem attacks and lies. And secondly, it’s okay to attack me, but guess what, it’s not okay to attack my wife, to attack my dead mother’s reputation, and it’s not okay to attack my teenage, high school–age son either. These people are reprehensible, and they’re out of control, Dave. And they’re not learning; they’re doubling down.

Dave:So that’s the part that I’m concerned about right now that people always ask me. I did an event in Irvine last night, and the question I’m getting more and more now is: Is this thing turning around? Now I sense that there is something brewing against it. There’s something brewing finally, and I think anyone in this space, it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better, and that’s what I’m concerned about. You’re nodding already.

Sebastian Gorka:I think you’re right. Under what conditions does something like that change? If we rule out violence. We don’t want to have violence. The worst war we ever had was our Civil War with six hundred thousand Americans killed.

Dave:Even though they’re subtly condoning violence.

Sebastian Gorka:They are. We see the CEO of Twitter is even condoning it. Let’s pray to the good Lord that’s not where we’re going. So what’s the other option? What’s the other scenario? That they look in the mirror and they stop? But why would they? They reward each other for the lies. I mean look at Time magazine’s latest issue. It’s just a farrago of lies. It’s all opinion pieces. It’s not journalism. When you look at the people they celebrate at their get-togethers, they’re not journalists. I mean there are maybe six journalists left in this country that are actually doing investigative research, like Sara Carter, like Mollie Hemmingway. When are they going to be recognized by the Washington Press Corps? Never. Never, because they don’t comport with the narrative that we’re Nazis and the president is a dictator. This is a man whose grandchildren are Orthodox Jews. Can you wrap your heads around it, New York Times , CNN, Huffington Post, Buzzfeed? You’re reprehensible for calling this administration what you’ve called it. I know the president. It’s not that he doesn’t have a racist bone in his body; he doesn’t have a racist molecule in his body!

The stunning thing—and this is why it was such an honor to work for him—the stunning thing about Donald Trump is—and, look, I have a Bible in my pocket. I can swear on it. I’ll swear on this Bible. This man wants only two things for all Americans. He wants you and your family to be safe and he wants you to prosper. Which is what all American presidents should want, but you know what’s stunning, Dave? He wants that for you whether you voted for him or not. He doesn’t care whether you voted for Hillary. He doesn’t care whether you wanted Bernie to win. He doesn’t care whether you stayed at home and ate Doritos. If you’re an American and you’re living here legally, he wants you to be safe from harm, from gangs, from terrorism, and he wants you to prosper like he has prospered. This is the answer to your question: the left will never believe that, although it is true, and I can attest to it.