Brian Lane - Mind Games with a Serial Killer

SUFF:I don’t know her.

DAVIS:Tell us about her, Bill.

SUFF:I don’t know her.

DAVIS:You know we’re talking the truth and everything comes out in the wash. This is just one more thing in the wash that’s coming out.

SUFF:No, it isn’t.

DAVIS:Yes, it is.

SUFF:Not in my wash. No, it isn’t.

DAVIS:Yes, it is.

KEERS:Bill?

SUFF:What?

KEERS:We already told you. I’m not gonna let you lie. We’re gonna give you the opportunity to tell us the truth, okay?

SUFF:Okay.

KEERS:You, you wanna tell the truth,

SUFF:Yes.

KEERS:I know you do. I can tell you have sat here and you have told us that you want to tell the truth, have you not?

SUFF:I have.

KEERS:Do you wanna tell the truth? Or do you wanna go on with these lies?

SUFF:I don’t wanna tell any lies.

KEERS:Okay. Okay. You said, “I do not wanna tell any lies.”

SUFF:Right.

KEERS:Okay. ’Cause John Davis here is trying to tell you what we know. What we know. Not what we’re guessing, not what we think. What we have evidence to and what we know. You understand that?

SUFF:Yes.

KEERS:Now, it’s you, time, stuff that you know.

SUFF:I did not

KEERS:Now, listen to

SUFF:Okay.

KEERS:me. Okay? You say you don’t recognize her?

SUFF:No, I don’t.

KEERS:You say you don’t but we know that you were up there. Now this is your opportunity to tell the truth.

SUFF:I’m telling the truth. I did not go up there.

KEERS:I told you that every time you start to

SUFF:………………over

KEERS:tell a lie,

SUFF:over and over again.

KEERS:I will

SUFF:I do.

KEERS:because you

SUFF:Yes.

KEERS:we have evidence that clearly shows that you were the one that did this.

SUFF:No.

KEERS:And we are not gonna let you sit here and lie to us.

SUFF:We can’t

KEERS:Okay?

SUFF:talk anymore then. We can’t talk anymore then. Because you think I’m lyin’ and I’m not.

KEERS:You can’t talk any more

SUFF:I’m trying to.

KEERS:about what? Are you saying you don’t want to talk to us any more?

SUFF:I can’t talk any more about any of it any more because you’re saying I’m lying and I’m not.

KEERS:Okay, Bill, we’re gonna terminate this interview because you don’t want to talk to us anymore.

SUFF:I want a lawyer.

KEERS:Okay.

SUFF:I want a lawyer.

KEERS:Okay. Urn I’m going to just wait one second, to the left, I’m going to look here at your scratch marks and we’re going to take photographs, okay? Okay, Bill, so we have to do this.

SUFF:Okay.

KEERS:I’ll be back.

SUFF:Okay.

(Door Opens and Closes)

(Inaudible Voices)

(Door Opens)

KEERS:Bill, would you take off your jacket? I want to take some photographs of you.

SUFF:Let’s wait

KEERS:We need them.

SUFF:until my lawyer gets here.

KEERS:Well, um we’re gonna do this okay? ’Cause then you’re gonna be taken and and be booked. You’re gonna be booked on your parole. Okay? So why don’t you go and stand there. We’re not gonna ask you any questions. You’ve already told us you didn’t want to talk to us, so we’ll go ahead and let you do that. Unzip your jacket please and take it off. We want you to remember that we cannot contact you, but at any time during the week, Bill, if you would want contacting us leave a message over here, you know where we’re at. You’ve got my card in your pocket. Go ahead and take, your shirt open please. You still have it, is that correct?

SUFF:What?

KEERS:My card.

SUFF:Yes.

KEERS:I need you to take your shirt off, please.

(Inaudible Voices)

KEERS:Okay. They’re rolling the film again, it just takes a second. Okay. Then we’ll get you out of here, this place here, and take you to the jail.

DAVIS:Okay, go to the first one 32. Okay, can we get you to do that? Thank you. Can you look right at me with your eyes please open? Thank you. That’s it. These marks here?

KEERS:Ahm. Aaaand let me see you hands please. You know, hold them out this

DAVIS:The mark on the wrist, is that a scar?

KEERS:It’s a scar.

DAVIS:Okay.

KEERS:These here.

DAVIS:Here, I’ll hold

KEERS:These here. Are these new marks?

KEERS:What were these? Take some of these please.

DAVIS:Okay. Just look up (camera clicking) and just look to the wall over here, okay, (camera clicking) Okay, can you just……… here. Is there something you think?

KEERS:Yeah, up on the nose.

DAVIS:Up here.

KEERS:Yeah.

RSO TECH:Okay, (camera clicking) Okay one more. Okay………… keep looking to your left over here. Thank you. Okay………… okay, (camera clicking) back?

SUFF:I don’t know………………

RSO TECH:Okay, be patient. We’re gonna take ‘em all over again. We double shoot………(camera clicking) Okay. Look to the wall…………. just a little bit turn your……..(camera clicking) Okay, thanks, (camera clicking)…………. now………..okay (camera clicking) Okay, hold your thumbs down, thank you. (camera clicking)………… (camera clicking)………..okay now… (camera clicking)………… (camera clicking) okay…………… (cameraclicking)… one of your hands (camera clicking)…… okay………… Is that your cigarette?

SUFF:Okay.

SUFF:I tried it didn’t uh,

RSO TECH: Oh yeah sure. Well, you should put your two shirts and then we’ve gotta get one with, are these your glasses?

SUFF:Yes.

RSO TECH:Okay, I wanna get one with your uh glasses on. Okay. Let’s let’s get them an’ put them on.

SUFF:Okay.

RSO TECH:Hold on, let me just get a shot at that. (camera clicking) Ahm. (camera clicking)

SUFF:Inaudible Voices

(camera clicking) Okay, (camera clicking)

KEERS:You guys Is there anything in these two pockets?

SUFF:I don’t know.

KEERS:Okay. That’s enough of the hands, you can come on.

(Inaudible Voices)

By this point in our story, you know Bill Suff almost as well as I do, so I’m going to let you come up with your own answers as to why he answered as he did during his interrogation, but notice how his lies built and twisted and folded in on themselves.