President's Commission on the Assassination of - The Warren Commission (Complete Edition)

Mrs. Oswald. I don't remember exactly whether it was an American camera or this.

Mr. Rankin. But this was one of your cameras, or your husband's cameras?

Mrs. Oswald. My husband's camera.

Mr. Rankin. I offer in evidence Exhibit 136.

The Chairman. It may be admitted.

(The article referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 136, and received in evidence.)

Mr. Thorne. Exhibit 137 is a camera in a leather case.

Mr. Rankin. Have you ever seen that camera before?

Mrs. Oswald. No.

Mr. Dulles. Is that a Russian camera?

Mrs. Oswald. No.

(The article referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 137 for identification.)

Mr. Thorne. Exhibit 138 is a flash attachment for some type of camera. It is an Ansco flash attachment.

Mrs. Oswald. I have never seen it.

(The article referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 138 for identification.)

Mr. Rankin. Do you know what happened to the American camera that you referred to?

Mrs. Oswald. I don't know.

Mr. Rankin. Was this Ansco flash equipment an attachment for that camera?

Mrs. Oswald. I have never seen it. It seems to me that it is new.

Mr. Thorne. Exhibit 139.

Mrs. Oswald. This is the fateful rifle of Lee Oswald.

Mr. Rankin. Is that the scope that it had on it, as far as you know?

Mrs. Oswald. Yes.

Mr. Rankin. I offer in evidence Exhibit 139.

The Chairman. It may be admitted.

(The article referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 139, and received in evidence.)

Mr. Thorne. Exhibit 140 apparently is a blanket.

Mr. Rankin. Have you seen that before, Mrs. Oswald?

Mrs. Oswald. This is still from Russia. June loved to play with that blanket.

Mr. Rankin. Was that the blanket that your husband used to cover up the rifle?

Mrs. Oswald. Yes. We didn't use this blanket as a cover. He used it for the rifle.

Mr. Rankin. And it was the blanket that you saw and thought was covering the rifle in the garage at the Paine's, is it?

Mrs. Oswald. Yes.

Mr. Rankin. Did he use it as a cover for the rifle at other places where you lived?

Mrs. Oswald. No.

Mr. Rankin. I offer in evidence Exhibit 140.

The Chairman. It may be admitted.

(The article referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 140, and received in evidence.)

Mr. Rankin. Did you say that June played with this blanket, Exhibit 140?

Mrs. Oswald. Yes. I would put that on the floor to make it softer—on a balcony, for example, when June was playing on it.

Mr. Rankin. Is that in this country or in Russia?

Mrs. Oswald. She didn't crawl yet in Russia.

Mr. Rankin. What balcony was that—what house?

Mrs. Oswald. On Neely Street, in Dallas.

Mr. Thorne. Exhibit 141 is an envelope that contains a bullet.

Mr. Rankin. Have you ever seen bullets or shells like that that your husband had?

Mrs. Oswald. I think Lee's were smaller.

Mr. Rankin. If that was the size for his gun, would that cause you to think it was the same?

Mrs. Oswald. Probably.

Mr. Rankin. Where did you see his?

Mrs. Oswald. In New Orleans, and on Neely Street.

Mr. Rankin. In the box, or laying loose some place?

Mrs. Oswald. In a box.

Mr. Rankin. I offer in evidence Exhibit 141.

The Chairman. It may be admitted.

(The article referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 141, and received in evidence.)

Mr. Thorne. Exhibit 142 is some kraft paper, brown wrapping paper.

Mrs. Oswald. It wasn't brown before.

Mr. Rankin. Did you ever see that before?

Mrs. Oswald. The FBI questioned me about this paper, but I don't know—I have never seen it.

Mr. Rankin. At one time it was kraft color, before they treated it to get fingerprints.

Did you ever see anything like that?

Mrs. Oswald. Everybody sees such paper. But I didn't see that with Lee.

Mr. Rankin. You have never seen anything like that around the house, then?

Mrs. Oswald. No. We have wrapping paper around the house.

Mr. Rankin. That Exhibit 142 is more than just wrapping paper. It was apparently made up into a sack or bag.

Mrs. Oswald. I didn't see it.

Mr. Rankin. Did you ever see him make up a bag or sack or anything like that, to hold a rifle?

Mrs. Oswald. No.

(The article referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 142, for identification.)

Mr. Thorne. Exhibit 143 is a pistol.

Mrs. Oswald. Lee Oswald's.

Mr. Rankin. You recognize that as a pistol of your husband?

Mrs. Oswald. Yes.

Mr. Rankin. I offer in evidence Exhibit 143.

The Chairman. It may be admitted.

(The article referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 143, and received in evidence.)

Mr. Thorne. Exhibit 144 is a leather pistol holster.

Mrs. Oswald. That is a holster for Lee's pistol.

Mr. Rankin. Is Exhibit 144 the same holster that is in those pictures that you took?

Mrs. Oswald. Yes.

Mr. Rankin. And the pistol is the same pistol as in those pictures?

Mrs. Oswald. As much as I can tell.

Mr. Rankin. At least they appear to be, as far as you can tell?

Mrs. Oswald. Yes.

Mr. Rankin. And the rifle is the same, or appears to be, is it not?

Mrs. Oswald. Yes.

The Chairman. It may be admitted.

(The article referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 144, and received in evidence.)

Mr. Thorne. Exhibit 145 is a small cardboard box containing two bullets, .38 caliber.

Mr. Rankin. Do you recognize those as appearing to be the size of the bullets that your husband had for the pistol?

Mrs. Oswald. It is hard for me to tell, because I don't understand about this. I never looked at them, because I am afraid.

Mr. Rankin. But you have seen bullets like that, have you, in your husband's apartment or rooming house, or in the Neely apartment or at Mrs. Paine's?

Mrs. Oswald. At Mrs. Paine's I never saw any shells.

On Neely Street, perhaps it is similar—New Orleans. It looks like it. If they fit Lee's pistol, then they must be the right ones.

Mr. Rankin. I offer in evidence Exhibit 145.

The Chairman. Admitted.

(The article referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 145, and received in evidence.)

The Chairman. We will take a short recess.

(Brief recess.)

The Chairman. We will be in order, please.

Mr. Rankin. Mrs. Oswald, would you step over with the interpreter to this desk and point out the different pieces of clothing as we ask you about it, please?

Do you know the shirt that Lee Oswald wore the morning that he left?

Mrs. Oswald. I don't remember. What else interests you? What do you want?

Mr. Rankin. Can you tell us whether any of this clothing set out on this desk belonged to Lee Oswald?

Mrs. Oswald. These are Lee's shoes.

Mr. Rankin. When you say the shoes, you pointed to Exhibit 149?

Mrs. Oswald. Yes.

Mr. Rankin. This is a pair of shoes of which Exhibit 149 is a photograph.

Mrs. Oswald. These are his bath slippers.

Mr. Rankin. Exhibit 148 are his bath slippers?

Mrs. Oswald. Japanese bath slippers. These shoes I have never seen.

Mr. Rankin. That is Exhibit 147, you say those are shoes you have never seen?

How about Exhibit 146?

Mrs. Oswald. These are his, yes. These are all Lee's shirts.

Mr. Rankin. Exhibits 150, 151——

Mrs. Oswald. These are his pajamas.

Mr. Rankin. Exhibits 150, and 151 are Lee Oswald's shirts, is that right?

Mrs. Oswald. Yes.

Mr. Rankin. And Exhibit 152 is a pair of his pajamas?

Mrs. Oswald. Yes.

Mr. Rankin. And Exhibit 153—you recognize that?

Mrs. Oswald. That is his shirt.

Mr. Rankin. And Exhibit 154? Is that one of his shirts?

Mrs. Oswald. Yes.

Mr. Rankin. Exhibit 155?