President's Commission on the Assassination of - The Warren Commission (Complete Edition)

Mrs. Oswald. This map Lee acquired after returning to Irving. Before that, he had another map.

That doesn't tell me anything. I did not use this map.

Mr. Rankin. Did you ever see your husband use it?

Mrs. Oswald. No. I think that this was in his apartment, where he lived. Perhaps he used it there.

Mr. Rankin. Did you ever see him put those markings on it?

Mrs. Oswald. No, I have never seen him use this specific map. Possibly he marked this place, not because of what happened there, but because this was the place where he worked, I don't know. He had a habit to note down the addresses of all acquaintances where he worked.

Mr. Rankin. Can you tell whether the writing on the side of the map there is in your husband's handwriting?

Mrs. Oswald. It doesn't look like his handwriting.

(The document referred to was marked for identification as Commission Exhibit No. 128.)

Mr. Thorne. Exhibit 129 purports to be some type of an official document in Russian.

Mrs. Oswald. That is my birth certificate.

Mr. Rankin. Do you know why it was issued at that date, rather than presumably the one that was issued when you were born?

Mrs. Oswald. Because mine was lost somewhere, and it was reissued.

Mr. Rankin. Did you have to go there to get it?

Mrs. Oswald. No, simply write a letter.

Mr. Rankin. And they mailed it to you?

Mrs. Oswald. Yes.

Mr. Rankin. I offer that exhibit in evidence.

The Chairman. It may be admitted.

(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 129, and received in evidence.)

Mr. Thorne. Exhibit 130 seems to be an original instrument in Russian.

Mrs. Oswald. This is a copy of a birth certificate which a notary issues.

Mr. Thorne. Whose certificate?

Mrs. Oswald. Mine.

Mr. Rankin. I offer in evidence Exhibit 130.

The Chairman. It may be admitted.

(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 130, and received in evidence.)

Mr. Thorne. Exhibit 131 is a one-sheet document in Russian.

Mrs. Oswald. The same thing.

Mr. Rankin. Why did you have these other copies?

Mrs. Oswald. These documents were needed for regularizing all the documents in connection with the trip abroad.

Mr. Rankin. Do you know why the date was rewritten from July 14 to July 19 on them?

Mrs. Oswald. In which?

Mr. Rankin. In the original.

Mrs. Oswald. I didn't see that.

It says July 17, 1941. The certificate is issued July 19, 1961.

Mr. Krimer. The transcript shows 17th of July 1941.

May I explain it, sir?

Mr. Rankin. You explain it, Mr. Krimer, and then ask her if you are explaining it correctly.

Mr. Krimer. I have explained it correctly, and she says it is correct.

This states she was born on July 17, but that an entry was made in the register about that on August 14, 1961. This accounts for the change in the digit. And this was issued on July 19, 1941.

Mr. Rankin. I offer that in evidence.

The Chairman. That will be admitted.

(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 131, and received in evidence.)

Mr. Thorne. 132 is a two-sheet, eight-page letter with an envelope. This is written in Russian.

Mrs. Oswald. The envelope is from Sobolev, and the letter is from Golovachev. I simply kept them together.

Mr. Rankin. There is a reference in the last full paragraph of that letter, Mrs. Oswald, where it said, "By the way, Marina, try to explain to Paul that the basic idea of Pagodzin's play 'A man with a rifle' is contained in words"—and then goes on. Do you know what was meant by that?

It says "Now we do not have to fear a man with a rifle." Who is Paul?

Mrs. Oswald. This is only that the word "rifle" scares you, but it is quite harmless. This is Peter Gregory, Paul. He is also studying Russian. And he had to make a report at the institute about Pagodzin's play "Man with a Rifle". This play is about the revolution in Russia, and there is a film. I helped him with it.

Mr. Rankin. You are satisfied that has nothing to do with the assassination?

Mrs. Oswald. Yes.

Mr. Rankin. I offer in evidence Exhibit 132.

The Chairman. It may be admitted.

(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 132, and received in evidence.)

Mr. Thorne. Exhibit 133 contains two photographs.

These are pictures of Lee Harvey Oswald with a rifle and pistol.

Mrs. Oswald. For me at first they appeared to be one and the same, at first glance. But they are different poses.

Mr. Rankin. You took both of those pictures, did you, in Exhibit 133?

Mrs. Oswald. Yes.

Mr. Rankin. And are those the pictures you took when you were out hanging up diapers, and your husband asked you to take the pictures of him?

Mrs. Oswald. Yes.

Mr. Rankin. With the pistol and the rifle?

Mrs. Oswald. Yes.

Mr. Rankin. We offer in evidence Exhibit 133.

The Chairman. It may be admitted.

(The documents referred to were marked Commission Exhibit No. 133, and received in evidence.)

Mr. Rankin. Do you recall whether these pictures in Exhibit 133 were taken before or after the Walker incident?

Mrs. Oswald. Before.

Mr. Thorne. Exhibit 134 is an enlargement of one of these pictures—what purports to be an enlargement.

Mrs. Oswald. Yes, this is an enlargement of that photograph.

Mr. Rankin. Mrs. Oswald, in Exhibit 133, in one of the pictures your husband has a newspaper, it appears.

Mr. Dulles. I think in both of them.

Mr. Rankin. I want to correct that.

In both he appears to have a newspaper. In one of them he has the newspaper in the right hand and in the other in the left hand. Do you know what newspaper that is?

Mrs. Oswald. It says there "Militant." But I don't know what kind of a paper that is—whether it is Communist, anti-Communist.

Mr. Rankin. Do you recall how much earlier than the Walker incident you took these photographs?

Mrs. Oswald. About two weeks.

Mr. Rankin. Was the enlargement of one of those pictures, Exhibit 134, made by you, or by someone else?

Mrs. Oswald. No, I don't know who made the enlargement.

Mr. Rankin. Have you seen Exhibit 134, the enlargement, before this?

Mrs. Oswald. No. I have been shown an enlargement, but I don't know whether this is the one I have been shown.

Mr. Rankin. Who showed that to you?

Mrs. Oswald. Apart from Mr. Gopadze, somebody else showed me an enlargement.

Mr. Rankin. Does this appear to be like the enlargement that you saw?

Mrs. Oswald. Yes. I think it was specially enlarged for the investigation.

Mr. Rankin. I offer in evidence Exhibit No. 134.

The Chairman. It may be admitted.

(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 134, and received in evidence.)

Mr. Thorne. Exhibit No. 136 purports to be a clipping from a newspaper. It is a clipping of an advertisement, a mail coupon.

Mrs. Oswald. I don't know what that is.

Mr. Rankin. Do you recognize the handwriting on it?

Mrs. Oswald. Lee's handwriting.

Mr. Rankin. I offer in evidence Exhibit 135.

The Chairman. It will be admitted.

(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 135, and received in evidence.)

Mr. Rankin. I call the Commission's attention to the fact that this is the coupon under which it appears the rifle was ordered, showing an enclosed $10 notation—"Check for $29.95, A. G. Hidell, age 28, post office box 2915, Dallas, Texas."

And it is marked, "One—quantity. Point 38 ST. W. 2 inch barrel, 29.95," and underlined is 29.95, and an arrow at that point.

Mr. Thorne. Exhibit 136 is a camera contained within a leather case.

Mrs. Oswald. This is a Russian camera.

Mr. Rankin. Is that the camera you used to take the pictures you have referred to?