Хакеры сновидений - Архив 7-9

sail to begin the definitive journey soon? Will the lineage of Toltec warriors, the keepers of this knowledge, end with

you?

A: Yes, that is correct, don Juan“s lineage ends with us.

Q: Here“s a question that I“ve often asked myself: Does the warriors“ path include, like other disciplines do, spiritual

work for couples?

A: The warriors“ path includes everything and everyone. There can be a whole family of impeccable warriors. The difficulty lies

in the terrible fact that individual relationships are based in emotional investments, and the moment the practitioner really

practices what she or he learns, the relationship crumbles. In the everyday world, emotional investments are not normally

examined, and we live an entire lifetime waiting to be reciprocated. Don Juan said I was a diehard investor and that my way of

living and feeling could be described simply: “I only give what others give me.“

Q: What aspirations of possible advancement should someone have who wishes to work spiritually according to the

knowledge disseminated in your books? What would you recommend for those who wish to practice don Juan“s

teachings by themselves?

A: There“s no way to put a limit on what one may accomplish individually if the intent is an impeccable intent. Don Juan“s

teachings are not spiritual. I repeat this because the question has come to the surface over and over. The idea of spirituality

doesn“t fit with the iron discipline of a warrior. The most important thing for a shaman like don Juan is the idea of pragmatism.

When I met him, I believed I was a practical man, a social scientist filled with objectivity and pragmatism. He destroyed my

pretensions and made me see that, as a true Western man, I was neither pragmatic nor spiritual. I came to understand that I only

repeated the word “spirituality“ to contrast it with the mercenary aspect of the world of everyday life. I wanted to get away from

the mercantilism of everyday life and the eagerness to do this is what I called spirituality. I realized don Juan was right when he

demanded that I come to a conclusion; to define what I considered spirituality. I didn“t know what I was talking about.

What I“m saying might sound presumptuous, but there“s no other way to say it. What a shaman like don Juan wants is to

increase awareness, that is, to be able to perceive with all the human possibilities of perception; this implies a colossal task and

an unbending purpose, which can not be replaced by the spirituality of the Western world.

Q: Is there anything you would like to explain to the South American people, especially to the Chileans? Would you like

to make any other statement besides your answers to our questions?

A: I don“t have anything to add. All human beings are at the same level. At the beginning of my apprenticeship with don Juan

Matus, he tried to make me see how common man“s situation is. I, as a South American, was very involved, intellectually, with

the idea of social reform. One day I asked don Juan what I thought was a deadly question: How can you remain unmoved by the

horrendous situation of your fellow men, the Yaqui Indians of Sonora?

I knew that a certain percentage of the Yaqui population suffered from tuberculosis and that, due to their economic situation,

they couldn“t be cured.

“Yes,“ don Juan said, “It“s a very sad thing but, you see, your situation is also very sad, and if you believe that you are in

better condition than the Yaqui Indians you are mistaken. In general the human condition is in a horrifying state of chaos. No one

is better off than another. We are all beings that are going to die and, unless we acknowledge this, there is no remedy for us.“

This is another point of the shaman“s pragmatism: to become aware that we are beings that are going to die. They say that

when we do this, everything acquires a transcendental order and measure.

* Translated from Spanish. Reprinted here with permission from Uno Mismo. Copyright 1997-2001 Laugan Productions

Polymorph (#61, 2004-09-11, 03:37:33 )

Пока что кидаю сюда на правах полуночного бреда. Если будет отклик, можно и перенести...

Заинтересовали меня “побочные эффекты“ ОС. После пробуждения из ОСа намного проще просыпаться, самочувствие гораздо лучше, чем после обычного пробуждения (в т.ч. из обычного сна). Тут Киллер писал -=После ОСа я - как заряженная батарейка=-. Вот это - оно самое.

Я сначала думал, что это остаточная эйфория, но вчера отследил повнимательней - нифига подобного, механизм эйфории скорее всего гормональный, поэтому она исчезает довольно быстро (максимум минут за 5-10, если ее искусственно не “накручивать“). А это состояние, если позволите, назову его состоянием “проясненного сознания“ - остается на протяжении всего дня. Даже сейчас, пишу я этот пост, 2.22 ночи уже, встал в 8 утра, глаза слипаются, но голова соображает отлично. Помимо этого, проявления “проясненного сознания“ состоят в повышенном контроле и осознании (при бодрствовании) и одновременно некоторой отрешенности от происходящего. (Типа, сидишь где-то в уютном уголке черепа и управляешь своим большим и неуклюжим организмом... И с интересом наблюдаешь, как у него получается выполнять твои команды. И за всем остальным, разумеется, тоже.)

Что происходит с этим состоянием дальше (в следующие циклы сон-бодрствование) - я пока специально не отслеживал, но вспоминая последние несколько недель, могу сказать, что когда его проявления сходят на нет (точнее, уходят в глубокий минус) - случается следующий ОС - и цикл по-новой.

Похоже, и на событийном уровне в день после ОСа имеет место благоприятный эффект. Но тут у меня пока слишком мало информации. Вообще-то я даже не очень понимаю, изменяется ли степень “проясненности сознания“ постепенно или скачкообразно.