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This book includes the Commission's report, which was based on the investigation, as well as all the supporting documents collected during the investigation, and the testimony or depositions of 552 witnesses. The President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy, known unofficially as the Warren Commission, was established by President Lyndon B. Johnson through Executive Order 11130 on November 29, 1963 to investigate the assassination of United States President John F. Kennedy that had taken place on November 22, 1963.

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Mr. McKenzie. Yes, sir; as soon as we receive it, Mr. Chairman, we will do so.

Mr. Jenner. May I say in that connection, Mr. McKenzie, if you could have him dictate that tape covering his memorandum, we can perhaps actually incorporate that in the record, which you will receive.

Mr. McKenzie. We cannot do it today, because we won't get to Dallas until late this evening. And I am going to church tomorrow and teach Sunday school and be with my children.

Mr. Oswald. And I with mine, sir.

Mr. McKenzie. I will make arrangements the first of the week to have it done.

Mr. Jenner. Send it to Mr. Rankin.

Mr. McKenzie. I shall.

If you receive from any source any further documentary information or any type of information which might be considered as evidence by this Commission, do you now ask the Commission's approval and permission to deliver such documents or information, if any, to the FBI, so that the information may be immediately forwarded to the Commission to assist in preparing its final report?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I do.

Mr. Dulles. Is that satisfactory to you, Mr. Jenner?

Mr. Jenner. Yes, sir.

Mr. McKenzie. Likewise, do you authorize me to deliver any like information or documents which I may receive, discover or otherwise have in my possession to the same agencies for the same purpose?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I most certainly do.

Mr. Jenner. Here, again, Mr. McKenzie, if anything is delivered, would you have it delivered to Mr. Rankin, rather than to me?

Mr. McKenzie. Yes, sir.

Have you ever applied for relief, unemployment compensation, or any other form of welfare aid?

Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I have not.

Mr. McKenzie. And I refer there, sir, to both the Federal Government aid programs and likewise any aid program of the State of Texas or the State of Louisiana.

Mr. Oswald. That is correct—or any other State of the United States.

Mr. McKenzie. I believe that you have previously testified to this, but I want to make it absolutely clear.

Do you now believe that Lee Harvey Oswald was at any time an agent of any agency of the United States Government, from the time that he departed for Russia, until the day of his death on November 24, 1963?

Mr. Oswald. I do not believe that he was an agent of any government.

Mr. McKenzie. Prior to November 22, 1963, did you know of any activities of Lee Harvey Oswald relative to the Fair Play for Cuba Committee or his arrest in New Orleans, La.?

Mr. Oswald. No, sir, I did not.

Mr. McKenzie. Mr. Oswald, what has been your position insofar as the press is concerned, since the unfortunate and tragic happenings of November 22, 1963?

Mr. Oswald. My position with any news media, whether it be the newspapers, magazines, television, et cetera, has been that—no comment, and the only comment I ever made to any of them, at a very early date, was that I would abide by the decision of the Commission which is now known as the Warren Committee.

Mr. McKenzie. Have you ever sought to elaborate or give any statement to the press at any time?

Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I have not.

Mr. McKenzie. Do you recall any statements made by Marina N. Oswald expressing sympathy for President's family?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I do.

Mr. McKenzie. And if you will, state the source of your recollection and where the statement was made, and if she has ever made any statement to that effect to yourself.

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; she did make a statement directly to myself. To the best of my recollection, this was first done on Monday, November 25, 1963, at the Inn of the Six Flags, at Arlington, Tex., as Marina and myself observed the beginning of the funeral for the President of the United States.

Mr. McKenzie. And was there anyone else present at that time?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; there were other people in the room. Whether or not they overheard our conversation, I do not know, sir.

Mr. Dulles. You observed that on television, I gather?

Mr. Oswald. That is correct.

Mr. McKenzie. Were there any Secret Service agents there at that time?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.

Mr. McKenzie. Were they in the room with you and Marina Oswald?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; they were.

Mr. McKenzie. And did they overhear any expressions of sympathy which she might have said?

Mr. Oswald. It is possible that they did, sir.

Mr. McKenzie. Have you ever testified in a lawsuit or given a deposition before a court reporter prior to your appearance before this Commission?

Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I have not.

Mr. McKenzie. Now, you have testified that you have not given any statements to the press other than the statement to the effect that you would abide with and be satisfied with the report of this Commission.

Since arriving in Washington, and since you have been sworn under oath before the Commission, have you given any statement to the press, other than saying goodnight, or good afternoon, or good morning?

Mr. Oswald. I believe at one time I did say thank you. Other than that, sir, I have not.

Mr. McKenzie. Now, have you read an article here in the New York Times of Saturday, February 22, 1964, on page 22 of the first section, entitled, "Russian training of Oswald hinted"?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I have.

Mr. McKenzie. Do you know Mr. Anthony Lewis?

Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I do not.

Mr. McKenzie. All right, sir.

Have you ever talked with Mr. Lewis?

Mr. Oswald. No, sir; not to my knowledge.

Mr. McKenzie. Now, you have testified this afternoon following our lunch break that you visited Lee Oswald in the Dallas County Jail. Do you recall that testimony—the testimony of just a few minutes ago?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I do.

Mr. McKenzie. Have you previously testified to that before the Commission, to your recollection?

Mr. Oswald. To my recollection, I believe we at least touched on that during our first session on February 20, 1963.

Mr. McKenzie. When you were in the jail—and I believe it is in the sixth floor of the Dallas County Jail—I mean the Dallas City Jail—talking with your brother, Lee Harvey Oswald, did you ask him at that time if he had committed the crime?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I had.

Mr. McKenzie. You did ask him that question?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I did.

Mr. McKenzie. And what did he say?

Mr. Oswald. I put it to him as stated in my diary, sir.

Mr. Jenner. Identify the page, please.

Mr. Oswald. On page 12, "I do not recall everything he said. I did try to point out to him that the evidence was overwhelming that he did kill Police Officer Tippit and possibly the President. To this he replied 'do not form any opinion on the so-called evidence.'"

Mr. Jenner. Is that all he said? He said nothing else?

Mr. Oswald. To that——

Mr. Jenner. In response to you?

Mr. Oswald. That is correct.

Mr. Jenner. At no time when you interviewed him over the telephone while you were in that—the sixth floor—did he affirmatively deny either that he had shot Officer Tippit or that he shot the President?

Mr. Oswald. He did not admit to anything whatsoever.

Mr. Jenner. Nor did he deny it affirmatively—other than the remark that you have recorded in your memorandum?

Mr. Oswald. That is correct, sir.

Mr. McKenzie. In other words, Mr. Oswald, when you were talking there with your brother, in the city jail of Dallas, he did not deny that he had killed Officer Tippit, nor did he deny that he had assassinated President Kennedy?

Mr. Oswald. He did not admit to anything, sir.

Mr. McKenzie. And he didn't deny anything?

Mr. Oswald. That is correct.

Mr. McKenzie. Have you, or haven't you told this Commission that you believed a denial?

Mr. Jenner. Excuse me, Mr. McKenzie, I don't understand that question.

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