President's Commission on the Assassination of - The Warren Commission (Complete Edition)

Mr. Dulles. Did you know about the Fair Play for Cuba incident in New Orleans at this time?

Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I did not.

Mr. Jenner. Did your brother Lee and Marina leave your home after Thanksgiving dinner?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; they did.

Mr. Jenner. That same day?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. Did you have occasion to see your brother at any time from that moment when he departed until sometime on the 22d of November 1963?

Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I did not.

Mr. McKenzie. Mr. Jenner, may I interrupt you one more time?

In response to your question, Mr. Chairman, it is my best recollection, and I may be wrong and stand to be corrected if I am wrong, that the Fair Play for Cuba or the pro-Castro leaflets that he was handing out in New Orleans was in the summer of 1963.

Mr. Dulles. I think you may be right.

Do you remember that?

Mr. Jenner. Yes, that is correct.

Mr. Dulles. That is correct. It had not taken place.

Mr. McKenzie. It had not taken place in November of 1962.

Mr. Dulles. Right.

Mr. McKenzie. To the best of our knowledge.

Mr. Jenner. Did the witness have any opportunity to respond to my last question?

Mr. McKenzie. You had finished your question and I interrupted you before you could make another question.

Mr. Jenner. You mean the witness had responded to it?

Mr. Dulles. No; I do not think he had.

Mr. Jenner. Would you read the pending question?

(The last question was read by the reporter.)

Mr. Jenner. Did you see Marina at any time subsequent to their departure on Thanksgiving Day, November 1962 and November 22, 1963?

Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I had not.

Mr. Dulles. Did you have any telephone conversations with either of them?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I had.

Mr. Jenner. In the interim period?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I had.

Mr. Jenner. Were there a number of those or were they infrequent?

Mr. Oswald. I recall only one, sir.

Mr. Jenner. When did that take place?

Mr. Oswald. Approximately two or three weeks after Thanksgiving of 1962.

Mr. Jenner. That would be sometime then in December of 1962?

Mr. Oswald. That is correct, sir.

Mr. Jenner. Did you call him or did he call you?

Mr. Oswald. No, sir; he called me.

Mr. Jenner. You recognized his voice?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. And was it day or night?

Mr. Oswald. It was, I believe it was Sunday afternoon, sir.

Mr. Jenner. Sunday afternoon. And what was the occasion of his making that call as you recall it?

Mr. Oswald. That he was in town briefly.

Mr. Jenner. In Fort Worth?

Mr. Oswald. In Fort Worth, Tex., and that I asked would we see him; he said no, they were visiting some friends.

Mr. Jenner. "They" meaning he and Marina?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir, and that they would be leaving for Dallas very shortly.

Mr. Jenner. That was a social call?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. You have given the full of the conversation?

Mr. Oswald. To the best of my remembrance; yes, sir. It was very short.

Mr. Jenner. Did you have occasion to talk to Marina over the telephone on that particular time?

Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I did not.

Mr. Jenner. Did he talk with any other member of your family on that occasion?

Mr. Oswald. No, sir; he did not.

Mr. Jenner. Other than that telephone conversation, had you had any other conversation with your brother Lee from the time on Thanksgiving Day, November 1962 to the time you saw him on November 22, 1963?

Mr. Oswald. I did not see him on November——

Mr. McKenzie. He did not see him on that day.

Mr. Oswald. On November 22, 1963.

Mr. McKenzie. He saw him on November 23, 1963.

Mr. Jenner. Then my question is November 23.

Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I had not had any conversation with him after November 1962, Thanksgiving Day, other than the one I have mentioned, up to the time of November 22, 1963.

Mr. Dulles. Did you make any attempts to get in touch with him in that period?

Mr. Oswald. Only through the mail, sir.

Mr. Jenner. I was about to come to that.

Did you have any correspondence with him in the sense of your dispatching a letter or note or he dispatching one to you?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I did.

Mr. Jenner. Did you retain the correspondence insofar as anything you received from him is concerned?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I did.

Mr. McKenzie. And that has previously been furnished to the Commission.

Mr. Jenner. It has previously been furnished and it is, I see, a postcard which is dated as I recall—you give the date.

Mr. Oswald. We are still referring to the period after November 1962, Thanksgiving Day?

Mr. Jenner. Yes, we are.

Mr. Oswald. All right, sir.

One postcard dated January 10, 1963.

Mr. Jenner. And that is Commission Exhibit 324.

Did you receive any other correspondence?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I did.

Mr. Jenner. And do you have it there?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I do.

Mr. Jenner. And it is a letter dated?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. What date?

Mr. Oswald. March 16, 1963.

Mr. Jenner. And that is Commission Exhibit 322.

Did you receive any other correspondence from him?

Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I have not.

Mr. Jenner. Did you dispatch any to him?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I had.

Mr. Jenner. Did they have any relation to either of the exhibits you have now identified?

Mr. Oswald. No, sir; they did not.

Mr. Jenner. That is, neither Exhibit 322 nor Exhibit 324 was in response to any communication that you had dispatched to him?

Mr. Oswald. Pardon me, sir, I was incorrect on that.

The letter of March 16, 1963 was in response to a letter I had written him approximately the first week of March 1963.

Mr. Jenner. Did you retain a copy of the letter you sent him? And if you made one, did you retain a copy?

Mr. Oswald. No, sir; no copy was made and I did not retain it.

Mr. Jenner. Would you state the contents of your letter?

Mr. Oswald. It was, briefly, sir, that we had moved to Malvern, Ark. I informed him of my new address and advised him that I had placed my home in Fort Worth, Tex., up for sale, and I had been given an opportunity by the company for a better and higher position, and that I had taken this opportunity and moved to Malvern, Ark. and requested, if possible, we would like to have them visit us.

Mr. Dulles. When did you move to Malvern, approximately?

Mr. Oswald. The fifth day of March 1963, sir.

Mr. Dulles. And how long were you there?

Mr. Oswald. To September 13, 1963, sir.

Mr. Dulles. And then you returned to——

Mr. Oswald. No, sir. Then I moved to Denton, Tex.

Mr. Dulles. Denton, Tex.?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. So that at the time of the event, November 22, 1963, you were residing in Malvern, Tex.?

Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I was residing in Denton, Tex.

Mr. Jenner. I should have said Malvern, Ark., anyhow.

Mr. Dulles. Let's see, you were then in Malvern, Ark., from March 1963, to approximately September 1963?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; that is correct.

Mr. Jenner. That is where I misunderstood. I thought he said December.

All right, sir. I take it then at least from Thanksgiving Day, 1962, and the 23d day of November, 1963, you never had any discussions with Robert with respect to his desire, if any, to return to Russia, with Lee rather?

Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I did not.

Mr. Jenner. Did you ever have any discussion with him on that subject?

Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I did not.

Mr. Jenner. Did you ever have any discussion with him or he with you or with Marina or she with you on her return to Russia, whether he desired it or she did?